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Carl V. said in January 3rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm

Sounds great, I am a fan of Niven and this one sounds like one I would like to read. Thanks for the non-spoiler review.

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Rusty said in January 4th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

Yeah,

This is a great Larry Niven story! I have been wanting to read it for quite a while, and was happy to find a free online version of it. Let us know what you think of it.

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Carl V. said in January 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am

I will. Just read and reviewed a collection of Cordwainer Smith short stories yesterday. Very impressed!

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Carl V. said in January 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

I just sat and read this story over my lunch time. Very entertaining. I must admit to knowing next to nothing about this type of science. Possibly odd for a science fiction fan, but that is the way of it. What I have always been able to do is read this kind of fiction and still understand the meat of the story behind it. Doesn’t really matter to me that I do not understand all the science, it is still fascinating and the story was entertaining. A World Out of Time is my favorite Niven novel…though that probably means little as I have only read short stories by him besides that novel. I really want to get into the Ringworld stories at some point. I wouldn’t be disappointed if you either shot me an email or commented here regarding your feelings on them, especially these more recent pre-Ringworld collaborations that he is writing.

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Rusty said in January 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Carl,

One nice thing about SF is the ability to read and enjoy a story without completely understanding the science part of it. Thank goodness too, or I would have flunked out of all the Greg Egan stuff I’ve read! :-)

I have only read the first two Ringworld novels. I enjoyed them both, but I thought the first one was spectacular. The story was good, and the idea of “a slice of a Dyson’s Sphere” was totally cool! I’ve heard that the science part behind the Ringworld doesn’t hold up, but who cares? The story was excellent, and it won both the Hugo and Nebula award in the early 70’s – reason enough to read it, I think.

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Carl V. said in January 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

That is reason enough for me to read it! :)

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Kim L said in January 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

I have read Ringworld and I had no idea that Niven had written more stories set in the same universe. I dozed a little through some of the technical stuff, but I loved the conclusion and what the character does with the knowledge. The puppeteers were always interesting to me. The image of the puppeteer bartender mixing the drink, though… ick.

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Rusty said in January 18th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Kim,

I also didn’t know that Niven had written some stories set in the Known Universe, but since reading this one I have come across a couple more too – ones I plan on reading soon. You’re right though, the bartending scene was a little bit disturbing!

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Carl V. said in January 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Keep repeating: I will get to Ringworld this year, I will get to Ringworld this year… :)

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Kailana said in January 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

This is the only thing I have ever read by Larry Niven! Terrible, I know! I really must remedy that, though. I see him at the second hand bookstore all the time, so I think I will be picking up some books. :)

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Rusty said in January 24th, 2009 at 10:09 am

Kailana,

Larry Niven has written some great stuff. While this story is good, I don’t think it is his best work. I have only read two of his Ringworld novels, but I really liked both of them – especially the first one. I’d recommend giving it a try.

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Kailana said in January 24th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

Yeah, I have no idea what the Ringworld series is. I am a fantasy nerd and pretty clueless when it comes to sci-fi! Off to find out what you and Carl are talking about. :)

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Carl V. said in January 25th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

Hey Rusty, I just finished Ringworld! Spent the day reading and got through it all in one day. Good stuff, I really enjoyed it. I am really curious now about the other Ringworld novels. It was great to see a reference early on in Ringworld to Beowulf Shaeffer! I’m so glad I read this or the reference would have completely escaped me.

Several elements in the story reminded me of elements in A World Out of Time and now I am really wanting to read that book again.

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Rusty said in January 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am

Carl,

Very cool! I am glad you enjoyed it, I think that it was a great book. There was a reference to Beowulf Shaeffer? I honestly don’t remember that, guess I’ll have to read it again. I have only read the first and second Ringworld novels, and I thought the second was pretty good too – not as good as the first, but still good. I’m looking forward to reading your thoughts about it on your website. And one day? Wow!

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Carl V. said in January 26th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

Just put up my review if you are interested. The reference to Shaeffer is that the reward for them participating is the ship Long Shot, that Shaeffer took to the galactic core. Searching wiki indicates that this event is told in the story At the Core.

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scatterbrain said in March 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm

I am all alone. I must come clean, and though I might be throwing myself into a tank of electric eels without paying a gas bill, I must be truthful: I didn’t like Ringworld very much. At all in fact.

I know you must be punching the screen by now, but that’s just the way I am.

I read the novel and I couldn’t believe it even got published, nevermind won awards.

The cardboard characters, the deus ex machinas, the hollow plot, the overload of pointless technical data, and, most troubling of all, the promise of the death which dosen’t happen. But worst of all was the ending; it just cuts off. In mid-paragraph, in the middle of a conversation. I was so sure my edition had a printing error that I went to Waterstones especialy just to check the last page, but no, it was no printing error, that really was the end. Looking over it, I think Niven just wrote it to start off a run-of-the-mill series and, the reason why it became so popular was the concept of the ringworld itself and nothing more.

Whoo! Glad I got that out of my system. I know you’re all too depressed now so’ll just stop.

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Rusty said in March 4th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Ha! That was pretty funny scatterbrain! Actually, I’m not too surprised – I have met some other people who really didn’t like it, but usually their complaint was the stupid aliens (the Puppeteers.)

I can see your point on several of those items, but overall I enjoyed the story – and yeah, I liked the whole concept of the ringworld (even though there are several scientific fallacies in it.) Oh well, to each their own right?